tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post7503058914390822452..comments2024-02-08T10:40:56.376-06:00Comments on Big Fat Delicious: Neuropathy, gastric bypass linkedvesta44http://www.blogger.com/profile/15480692717585745934noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-55777324657592425272010-06-15T17:43:56.052-05:002010-06-15T17:43:56.052-05:00hihiUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00220297705432329409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-47323814060287571462009-07-28T07:07:25.145-05:002009-07-28T07:07:25.145-05:00This is a great takedown, and thank you for bringi...This is a great takedown, and thank you for bringing this to our attention and sharing your own story.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.placidway.com/profile/752/" rel="nofollow"> Gastric Sleeve Surgery Mexicali </a>Mary Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10284426614584483150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-5087369700928822182009-04-06T07:49:00.000-05:002009-04-06T07:49:00.000-05:00Regina, I'm with you. I also find it helpful to e...Regina, I'm with you. I also find it helpful to embrace aging. It helped me that women in my family seemed a heck of alot happier as they got grayer and wrinklier... it set me up to look forward to aging and the maturity and peace that comes with it.AngryGrayRainbowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14818140697780480930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-71977066629287510502009-04-03T23:39:00.000-05:002009-04-03T23:39:00.000-05:00Your take on this is right on Mariann. You always...Your take on this is right on Mariann. You always get my mind thinking and rethinking my stances, and I love that! <BR/>I don't think I've ever heard your whole WLS nightmare story. Do you have a link to it somewhere? I would be interested in hearing about that journey in more than just a blurb or two. I hope that's not being invasive. <BR/>Also, I have been struggling with trying to determine whether the cause of my aches and pains are due to getting older, my weight, arthritis, or some combination. I am reaching a point in life of just "accepting" me at the stage I am without the need to find a cause or culprit to point the finger at. I have grown weary of the struggle to be perfect and am starting to just enjoy and embrace every new wrinkle, stretch mark, creaky joint, back pain, and gray hair. It doesn't always work, but it's keeping me sane.Reginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00577373158918455029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-23494543845823230822009-04-03T15:13:00.000-05:002009-04-03T15:13:00.000-05:00This sort of thing reeeaaally worries me. My mothe...This sort of thing reeeaaally worries me. My mother had the lap band put on maybe a year ago. She's been crowing about her "superb" weight loss ("Even faster than average!") ever since. She smiles and is happy about it while I anxiously note all the downsides she tries to avoid talking about. I worry that her WLS (which was supposed to save her from The DeathFat) is going to usher her into an early grave. :(<BR/><BR/>The only point of light is that she seems to be having pretty regular follow-ups and the lap band is apparently somewhat less deathly than bariatric. <BR/><BR/>Thank you for pointing out this study for us, though. I'll keep it in mind when I talk to my mom, and hope that I never need to know about it.Angelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13581702223434914995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-7927419361574505992009-04-03T11:51:00.000-05:002009-04-03T11:51:00.000-05:00Sandy - the comment feature on blogger can be wonk...Sandy - the comment feature on blogger can be wonky at times (if you aren't signed in to your wordpress/blogger/open ID/whatever, it may or may not let your comment through. But I did get your comment that you couldn't comment, so go figure.<BR/><BR/>spacedcowgirl - thanks :) I figure if just one person reads this stuff and reconsiders, then everything I'm doing is well worth putting it all out there, trolls and all.<BR/><BR/>wriggles - yeah, I'd much rather have the diseases themselves than the complications from WLS. At least the diseases usually have a known cause/cure/treatment, while the complications from WLS are ignored or said to be the patient's fault or caused by something other than the WLS and the treatment for those complications doesn't always help, unfortunately.<BR/><BR/>pippin85 - it would be interesting indeed to see MRI scans of a patient's brain pre-op, post-op, and at yearly intervals to see the progression of deterioration (and it does happen, to quite a few WLS patients, according to what I've read at OSSG-gone_wrong).<BR/><BR/>AGR - yeah, it makes me sad, but it also makes me angry. That anger is a good thing, I think, as that's what keeps me going and keeps me blogging about and commenting on anything WLS-related.<BR/><BR/>bilt4hugin - yeah, it's obvious to us, but not to the medical community who are profiting from pushing WLS as a "cure" for "obesity" and whatever else they think is related to being fat.<BR/><BR/>Andee J - my thoughts exactly. I'd much rather have diabetes than try WLS to get rid of it. Diabetes can be treated and controlled a lot easier than most of the complications from WLS (and the same goes for most of the things doctors say are "caused" by being fat). When I applied for SSDI, the Social Security doctor I saw recommended having RNY WLS since my VBG didn't work, and I told him in no uncertain terms that it wasn't happening. They had their one chance to kill me, and I wasn't giving them another, thank you very much.vesta44https://www.blogger.com/profile/15480692717585745934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-37915189264995485022009-04-03T11:32:00.000-05:002009-04-03T11:32:00.000-05:00it won't let me comment...it won't let me comment...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-30225785505992047602009-04-03T11:14:00.000-05:002009-04-03T11:14:00.000-05:00This is a great takedown, and thank you for bringi...This is a great takedown, and thank you for bringing this to our attention and sharing your own story. Most people just don't want to know about the risks of WLS, so they stick their fingers in their ears and pretend you just get thin and everything is great. You force us to confront the reality for so many people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-81226673322426081902009-04-03T08:12:00.000-05:002009-04-03T08:12:00.000-05:00How ironic that what has been touted as a 'cure' f...How ironic that what has been touted as a 'cure' for T2 should have symptoms in common with T2 itself, yet again the cure becomes the disease.wriggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12373644421447147066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-56932868477304349462009-04-03T08:08:00.000-05:002009-04-03T08:08:00.000-05:00I'm no expert but, I did take a nutrition class to...I'm no expert but, I did take a nutrition class to satisfy a science requirement and I had to learn what all the vitamins and minerals do inside the body and what happens when a person has a nutritional deficit. I then took a class in psychopharmacology as a free elective and learned how the brain worked and how if one isn't getting enough of a given vitamin or mineral that the brain needs it will go there as a survival mechanism. Bearing that in mind, I can't say I'm terribly surprised about this news and yet surprised that it isn't worse. What would be interesting would be to see an MRI of someone pre-op and post-op to see if their brain is working the same or differently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-23118578025481951082009-04-03T07:11:00.000-05:002009-04-03T07:11:00.000-05:00Well written... Honestly, the whole WLS situation ...Well written... <BR/>Honestly, the whole WLS situation just makes me so sad... atm, I have no other words than that... sigh...AngryGrayRainbowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14818140697780480930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-41854133304116772342009-04-03T02:52:00.000-05:002009-04-03T02:52:00.000-05:00Well, it does seem kind of obvious, no? I mean sev...Well, it does seem kind of obvious, no? I mean several neurological disorders can be directly linked to nutrient or vitamin deficiency including, in worse case scenarios, Beri-beri. Soooo. . . . Neropathy? Not such a wild idea, huh? Unless, of course, your more concerned about tarnishing the image of the greatest, most successful, treatment for this 'disease' of obesity, since sliced. . . . Well, stomachs, I guess would be technically correct. Which would be a large part of the problem here. Some Dr's are NEVER wrong. The patients diagnosis is just more complicated than it originally appeared to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-86557019552158624492009-04-03T00:53:00.000-05:002009-04-03T00:53:00.000-05:00That's what kills me about all the "butbutbut WLS ...That's what kills me about all the "butbutbut WLS CURES DIABEEETUS!" hype. Even if it did -- and the evidence is sketchy at best -- if I had a choice between diabetes and, oh, let's see, chronic pain, bone loss to the point of teeth falling out and everything else snapping like a twig, beriberi, rickets, scurvy, kwashiorkor...shit, give me diabetes any day.<BR/><BR/>Andee (Meowser)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529062520941210692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-20855941809263899852009-04-02T22:06:00.000-05:002009-04-02T22:06:00.000-05:00ok, now This and the title of the post are links t...ok, now This and the title of the post are links to the article (my bad, i should have proofread my html before posting).vesta44https://www.blogger.com/profile/15480692717585745934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-66655112866829429672009-04-02T22:05:00.000-05:002009-04-02T22:05:00.000-05:00below-the-belt - I don't know why my link (This) d...below-the-belt - I don't know why my link (This) didn't work, but if you click on the title of the post, it will take you to the article in the Arkansas Times (one of the members of OSSG posted this to the list today, and she had posted it to the list in August of 2007 also, before I became a member of OSSG-gone_wrong).vesta44https://www.blogger.com/profile/15480692717585745934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8397186280973403909.post-56037209709719409272009-04-02T21:48:00.000-05:002009-04-02T21:48:00.000-05:00This looks pretty juicy - would you share the cita...This looks pretty juicy - would you share the citation for the original research? Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com